>> that's part of it and i think, honestly, toby is speaking from kind of a washington insider base. >> that's me. >> yes, toby knows something will happen, but the average person out there who picks up "the washington post" and reads the fiscal cliff day after day isn't going to say, i'm going to watch family guy, no, trust me, that' what the fiscal cliff does. >> brenda: there's a big difference, a big difference. hold on, there's a big difference between this time and what happened with the debt ceiling crisis. >> right. >> brenda: the language out of d.c., you talk today, all the leaders and republicans and democrats came out together and held a press conference together. constructive. we have a cornerstone. >> i feel much better. >> brenda: the doom and gloom, gary b, the doom and gloom is coming from you. >> i don't he a lot of kumbayah out of washington. >> marginally better. >> more than marginally. >> look, if they put anything together, it's going to be-- and taxes supposed to go up, they have he' extended them, didn't kill christmas or help christmas then. we've had christ